IBIS Macromodel Task Group Meeting date: 31 March 2009 Members (asterisk for those attending): Adge Hawes, IBM Ambrish Varma, Cadence Design Systems Anders Ekholm, Ericsson * Arpad Muranyi, Mentor Graphics Corp. Barry Katz, SiSoft * Bob Ross, Teraspeed Consulting Group Brad Brim, Sigrity Brad Griffin, Cadence Design Systems Chris McGrath, Synopsys David Banas, Xilinx Donald Telian, consultant Doug White, Cisco Systems * Eckhard Lenski, Nokia-Siemens Networks Essaid Bensoudane, ST Microelectronics Fangyi Rao, Agilent Ganesh Narayanaswamy, ST Micro Gang Kang, Sigrity Hemant Shah, Cadence Design Systems Ian Dodd, Agilent Jerry Chuang, Xilinx Joe Abler, IBM John Angulo, Mentor Graphics John Shields, Mentor Graphics Ken Willis, Cadence Design Systems Kumar Keshavan, Sigrity Lance Wang, Cadence Design Systems Luis Boluna, Cisco Systems Michael Mirmak, Intel Corp. * Mike LaBonte, Cisco Systems Mike Steinberger, SiSoft * Mustansir Fanaswalla, Xilinx Patrick O'Halloran, Tiburon Design Automation Paul Fernando, NCSU Pavani Jella, TI * Radek Biernacki, Agilent (EESof) * Randy Wolff, Micron Technology Ray Comeau, Cadence Design Systems Richard Mellitz, Intel Richard Ward, Texas Instruments Sam Chitwood, Sigrity Sanjeev Gupta, Agilent Shangli Wu, Cadence Design Systems Sid Singh, Extreme Networks Stephen Scearce, Cisco Systems Steve Pytel, Ansoft Syed Huq, Cisco Systems Syed Sadeghi, ST Micro Ted Mido, Synopsys Terry Jernberg, Cadence Design Systems * Todd Westerhoff, SiSoft Vladimir Dmitriev-Zdorov Vikas Gupta, Xilinx Vuk Borich, Agilent Walter Katz, SiSoft Zhen Mu, Cadence Design Systems ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Opens: -------------------------- Call for patent disclosure: - No one declared a patent. ------------- Review of ARs: - Todd: Write IBIS s-param BIRD - Still working on it - It may be done in 2 weeks or so - Arpad: Write parameter passing syntax proposal (BIRD draft) for *-AMS models in IBIS that is consistent with the parameter passing syntax of the AMI models - TBD - TBD: Propose a parameter passing syntax for the SPICE - [External ...] also? - TBD - Arpad: Review the documentation (annotation) in the macro libraries. - Deferred until a demand arises or we have nothing else to do ------------- New Discussion: Todd: Synopsys sent HSPICE documentation in .doc format - The pages have Confidential footers - We will have to decide about using Walter's presentation strategy - Arpad: Walter suggested blacking out portions of the text - Todd: Since we have .doc files we do not have to hire a FrameMaker expert - Bob: We probably can't upload it to the website while working on it - Mike: Redacting the word "Confidential" seems like a questionable practice - Arpad: We can say it is used with permission - Todd: We can have Synopsys confirm this - Todd: Some pictures are missing in this export - We can chop down what we have so it can be shared - Arpad: Walter would know what to chop out - Bob: Some people without Synopsys licenses will eventually see this - Mike: Should we put a "used by permission" notice near "Confidential"? - Bob: Our version has to not say Confidential - Todd: Having "Confidential" would undercut their other documentation - Bob: The IBIS committee will own this document AR: Todd ask Walter if he will be the editor of the IISpice document Bob: Would prefer to drop the .connect directive Randy: Are we allowed to share the document over LiveMeeting? - Bob: It would be better to get rid of "Confidential" - Todd: They first sent it without "Confidential", then resent with it - Radek: It may be that the scope is for the entire document - Arpad: We need to find out what use rights they have in mind - Todd: They also sent portions we did not ask for - Bob: Synopsys may have real legal issues that Chris has to comply with Mike: This doc is for what software version? - Todd: It appears to be 2009.03 Next meeting: 31 March 2009 12:00pm PT -----------